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> <channel><title>Comments on: Women ski jumpers in Court of Appeal today</title> <atom:link href="http://fasterskier.com/2009/11/women-ski-jumpers-in-court-of-appeal-today/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://fasterskier.com/2009/11/women-ski-jumpers-in-court-of-appeal-today/</link> <description>FasterSkier: Cross-Country Ski, Biathlon, and Nordic Combined Racing, Training and News</description> <lastBuildDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 03:10:14 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3</generator> <item><title>By: caldxski</title><link>http://fasterskier.com/2009/11/women-ski-jumpers-in-court-of-appeal-today/comment-page-1/#comment-841</link> <dc:creator>caldxski</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:41:18 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://fasterskier.com/?p=68672#comment-841</guid> <description>In trying to find some of the reasoning the IOC has been using to thwart women&#039;s ski jumping, I look at this year&#039;s Olympic quotas for all countries,  which have been published (and available on this website--thanks!).  It shows a total of 70 jumpers and a mere 55 for Nordic Combined (my event, and I was strongest in jumping, so I sympathize with jumpers). Compared to over 300 for xc and alpine, nearly 200 for freestyle and snowboarding. the numbers for jumping and combined are not impressive. Fans arguing for women&#039;s jumping could go a step farther and argue for women&#039;s Nordic Combined.  Doesn&#039;t make sense now.
Most sports organizations reason that if there is not much event participation among the bodies, groups, nations, or whatever they control, they won&#039;t sponsor a &quot;championship&quot;  in that event. The NCAA&#039;s dropped ski jumping several years ago, as an example. There were not many colleges with ski jumping teams, so-------. Just now, I&#039;m afraid there simply aren&#039;t enough nations with ski jumping teams, so the IOC is not impressed.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In trying to find some of the reasoning the IOC has been using to thwart women&#8217;s ski jumping, I look at this year&#8217;s Olympic quotas for all countries,  which have been published (and available on this website&#8211;thanks!).  It shows a total of 70 jumpers and a mere 55 for Nordic Combined (my event, and I was strongest in jumping, so I sympathize with jumpers). Compared to over 300 for xc and alpine, nearly 200 for freestyle and snowboarding. the numbers for jumping and combined are not impressive. Fans arguing for women&#8217;s jumping could go a step farther and argue for women&#8217;s Nordic Combined.  Doesn&#8217;t make sense now.<br
/> Most sports organizations reason that if there is not much event participation among the bodies, groups, nations, or whatever they control, they won&#8217;t sponsor a &#8220;championship&#8221;  in that event. The NCAA&#8217;s dropped ski jumping several years ago, as an example. There were not many colleges with ski jumping teams, so&#8212;&#8212;-. Just now, I&#8217;m afraid there simply aren&#8217;t enough nations with ski jumping teams, so the IOC is not impressed.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: ande3577</title><link>http://fasterskier.com/2009/11/women-ski-jumpers-in-court-of-appeal-today/comment-page-1/#comment-840</link> <dc:creator>ande3577</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 19:51:58 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://fasterskier.com/?p=68672#comment-840</guid> <description>In this case I place the blame on the FIS rather than the IOC.  If I recall correctly it was only added to the world champs last year in Liberec.  It&#039;s hard to make an argument that a sport is developed enough to deserve a spot on the Olympic roster when it&#039;s own governing body disagrees.
Now, as for the FIS failing to take steps to develop the sport on the international level, that is inexcusable.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this case I place the blame on the FIS rather than the IOC.  If I recall correctly it was only added to the world champs last year in Liberec.  It&#8217;s hard to make an argument that a sport is developed enough to deserve a spot on the Olympic roster when it&#8217;s own governing body disagrees.</p><p>Now, as for the FIS failing to take steps to develop the sport on the international level, that is inexcusable.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: themkom</title><link>http://fasterskier.com/2009/11/women-ski-jumpers-in-court-of-appeal-today/comment-page-1/#comment-838</link> <dc:creator>themkom</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 19:03:28 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://fasterskier.com/?p=68672#comment-838</guid> <description>If I and 200 other men starting competing at rythmic gymnastics, it wouldn&#039;t give us the &quot;right&quot; to compete in the olympics simply because women do.  When we were turned down, it would be because the sport of men&#039;s rythmic gymnastics wouldn&#039;t have enough participation to qualify as an olympic sport.  It wouldn&#039;t be fair to the athletes in other sports.  It would not be gender discrimination.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I and 200 other men starting competing at rythmic gymnastics, it wouldn&#8217;t give us the &#8220;right&#8221; to compete in the olympics simply because women do.  When we were turned down, it would be because the sport of men&#8217;s rythmic gymnastics wouldn&#8217;t have enough participation to qualify as an olympic sport.  It wouldn&#8217;t be fair to the athletes in other sports.  It would not be gender discrimination.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: T.Eastman</title><link>http://fasterskier.com/2009/11/women-ski-jumpers-in-court-of-appeal-today/comment-page-1/#comment-837</link> <dc:creator>T.Eastman</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:35:12 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://fasterskier.com/?p=68672#comment-837</guid> <description>themkon, I strongly disagree with your position.  The sport is currently part of the Winter Olympics and this exclusion based on gender is an obvious case of discrimination.
Since women&#039;s XC skiing is a &quot;niche sport&quot; across most of the globe, should it too be omitted from the OWGs?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>themkon, I strongly disagree with your position.  The sport is currently part of the Winter Olympics and this exclusion based on gender is an obvious case of discrimination.</p><p>Since women&#8217;s XC skiing is a &#8220;niche sport&#8221; across most of the globe, should it too be omitted from the OWGs?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: themkom</title><link>http://fasterskier.com/2009/11/women-ski-jumpers-in-court-of-appeal-today/comment-page-1/#comment-836</link> <dc:creator>themkom</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:31:13 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://fasterskier.com/?p=68672#comment-836</guid> <description>This is a joke.  They should probably be counter-sued for continuing this frivolous lawsuit.  Don&#039;t they realize they are a very small niche in a niche sport.  We probably need to worry more about all ski jumping remaining in the Olympics.  A very small population participates in ski jumping.  This hardly represents the type of world-wide competition that the Olympics is supposed to represent.  How is this fair to athletes in other sports that must compete against millions of others to be considered olympians?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a joke.  They should probably be counter-sued for continuing this frivolous lawsuit.  Don&#8217;t they realize they are a very small niche in a niche sport.  We probably need to worry more about all ski jumping remaining in the Olympics.  A very small population participates in ski jumping.  This hardly represents the type of world-wide competition that the Olympics is supposed to represent.  How is this fair to athletes in other sports that must compete against millions of others to be considered olympians?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
